"Jesus Is My Lord And Saviour And I'm Not Afraid To Say It"... ARGH.

Goggles

SugarSpiral wrote:

Goggles wrote:

The body is the soul and when the body dies so does the person's consciousness.

I think that's quite a* positive belief. Stops people wasting their lives in the belief that there's something better afterward* and all that jazz.

How long have you been a Witness?

I've been a Witness for as long as I could remember. My mom became a Witness before I was born and raised me as one.

Here's something you guys might find confusing. When resurrected, one either becomes part of the heavenly co-heirs of Jesus (The 144000) or part of the innumerable "other sheep" that they rule over here on earth.

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SugarSpiral

...Could you explain that concept in more detail?

Sorry if I'm grilling you too much, I'm just interested.

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Goggles

Basically if you get resurrected you either get into Heaven or get resurrected here on Earth.

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SugarSpiral

...Is it just random luck or what?

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Goggles

Come Easter season for you guys, we Witnesses hold a celebration of Christ's death we call the Memorial. There, when the unleavened bread and the cup of wine are served, only the ones with the hope of life in heaven are allowed to drink and eat.

They say that if you get a really intense desire to participate in eating the bread and drinking the wine (I don't know how to explain it exactly) that means you're part of the heavenly. Otherwise, like me, you get a promise of life on Earth instead.

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PrincessJaded

Andre, now I'm curious because you've so far actually explained things nicely - not like the people who pound on my door at 7 AM.

Why is that Whitnesses don't celebrate birthday and certain holidays?

I never quite understood that.

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Na-cat

This is really interesting stuff, I can't believe I've always been so ignorant about Witnesses. Nobody I knew ever really spoke/knew about it.

Is the resurrestion, like, a continious cycle or does it stop at one point?

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Goggles

Resurrection for the Earthly part of God's Kingdom comes after Armageddon. We speculate (meaning no direct Biblical evidence) that the Earthly resurrection will not happen in one day but for a long period of time. For the Heavenly, resurrection is instantaneous. Once they die faithful, they are instantly resurrected as spirits in heaven "in the twinkling of an eye."

Oh, I forgot to mention. When you die as a Heavenly you are granted immortality which is why God chooses those who become Heavenly using his foreknowledge (to know who's going to be faithful).

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SugarSpiral

You are explaining things really well ^,^

See, I've always had a negative view of Witnesses, because I had a school friend who was raised as one... But when she decided she wanted to make her own choices about her beliefs, they made things very difficult for her. And that bugged me.

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Na-cat

Yes, Andre, your explanations are lovely (as are the mathematical ones -to me, at least)

Aana, many families are like that when they have strong beliefs. Religious especially, but not only.

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SugarSpiral

Oh, I know, I'm not completely pig-ignorant.

But seeing this girl- absolutely terrified about telling her mother she wanted to make her own decisions in life- really had a lasting effect on me.

I think it's most of the reason I'm not fond of children being raised to a religious standard.

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PrincessJaded

Hmm... my question was never answered. =/

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Goggles

I'll get back to your question, PrincessJaded when I return from school. I'll try to rationalize what happened to your friend as well, Aana.

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PrincessJaded

Okiedokie, sounds like a plan.

And you can call me Diane, everyone else does! Very Happy

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SugarSpiral

Have a fab day!

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